tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post876997268219050963..comments2024-03-09T03:20:20.004-05:00Comments on Tenured Radical: Barney Frank Doesn't Live Around Uranus, But A Lot Of Conservative Activists Seem To Be Moving ThereTenured Radicalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05703980598547163290noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-16919155829140895162010-01-21T21:35:55.997-05:002010-01-21T21:35:55.997-05:00what up people i love thiswhat up people i love thisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-10896785027789019942009-08-25T16:55:28.866-05:002009-08-25T16:55:28.866-05:00Larouche Youth Pac claims Frank questioner as memb...<a href="http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/25/visitors-from-planet-larouche/?hp" rel="nofollow">Larouche Youth Pac claims Frank questioner as member</a>Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-3717786463173132902009-08-21T14:21:19.004-05:002009-08-21T14:21:19.004-05:00Tell me, O great Uranus expert, do things get all ...Tell me, O great Uranus expert, do things get all wee-weed up in August on Uranus?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-46019901327757347052009-08-21T08:11:25.582-05:002009-08-21T08:11:25.582-05:00Anon 9:37 - The "logic" behind the Nazi ...Anon 9:37 - The "logic" behind the Nazi comparisons is that "death panels" evoke eugenics evoke ethnic (and other degenerate) cleansing. Ergo the extra weirdness of bringing that up to Frank. & to be clear, lefty nutters also compared Bush to Hitler-- try a new comparison, folks. Ever heard of Godwin's Law?<br /><br />TR, "Urotheranus" = good oneBesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04691600265011800746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-67980456416243251202009-08-20T21:37:11.996-05:002009-08-20T21:37:11.996-05:00I find the explosion of Hitler references complete...I find the explosion of Hitler references completely baffling. Even if we assume that most people walking around with signs, images, and comments that equate Obama with Hitler are making something less than a well-reasoned argument (as I think we must), there must be some kind of cultural logic (or at least an institutional/organizational genesis) that explains where this is coming from. Right? ... Is this confusion over the difference between "national socialism" and "socialism" ... or what? Please tell me some political scientist or American historian can explain this bizarre phenomenon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-57394570886365104292009-08-20T20:59:43.598-05:002009-08-20T20:59:43.598-05:00The Constitution doesn't actually give a a rig...The Constitution doesn't actually give a a right to happiness, just the pursuit of happiness-but as a group or as individuals?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-421985807708306712009-08-20T17:19:19.877-05:002009-08-20T17:19:19.877-05:00TR, I've never heard anyone credit LaRouche fo...TR, I've never heard anyone credit LaRouche for accomplishing anything (except for the creation of a creepy cult, and tax fraud) who wasn't a dyed-in-the-wool LaRouche dead-ender. But you're right, nobody checked her voter registration card.Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-22559501194894841152009-08-20T15:44:00.741-05:002009-08-20T15:44:00.741-05:00Great comments all-- but one quibble, Jon Dresner....Great comments all-- but one quibble, Jon Dresner. The evidence seems strong that this woman is a Larouche follower, but it is still circumstantial -- no one seems to have actual proof that this woman is a Larouchie, and no one bothered to interview her afterward -- at least, not the Independent. Much as I oppose the way this fight is being carried out (and what the woman said actually makes no logical sense -- that the Dems are shrinking health care dollars *because* of the recession and the deficit, therefore people will be killed because care will be retracted not expanded I still think you need proof. And saying that she is a far-right wing cultist is a diversion (unintentional perhaps) hat these things are also being said by Republic Congressmen.Tenured Radicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703980598547163290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-69227953528988190052009-08-20T15:25:09.126-05:002009-08-20T15:25:09.126-05:00Great post.
But after some initial amusement by s...Great post.<br /><br />But after some initial amusement by some of the signs and remarks--"keep the government away from my Medicare", the best one I saw--I am increasingly depressed about the chances of any real health reform passing. It is astounding and scary how successful the right wing is at defining the terms of the debate even when, as in the case of health care, they rely on talking points that are jaw dropingly insane. The left has never figured out how to correctly respond, though it does not help when the democrats as a whole lack courage and always try to find compromise with those whose only concern is to protect the profits of the insurance industry.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10301660030122954412noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-37479668027416898102009-08-20T13:57:45.385-05:002009-08-20T13:57:45.385-05:00Anonymous 1:25, the way Obama's poll numbers a...Anonymous 1:25, the way Obama's poll numbers are sinking, you and your liberal friends better hurry or Obamacare will be toast come September.JackDanielsBlackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285871354441074406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-58957807124946217862009-08-20T13:52:04.608-05:002009-08-20T13:52:04.608-05:00offers no source for this hypothetical.
It's ...<i>offers no source for this hypothetical.</i><br /><br />It's not a hypothetical: the woman's question credits LaRouche with having already defeated the idea of National socialist style health care (or having beaten the Nazis and Soviet Union, I'm not sure) and asks why Frank is still supporting it.Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-71030861973227515232009-08-20T13:25:14.088-05:002009-08-20T13:25:14.088-05:00Well said for sure! And never fear, JackDanielsBla...Well said for sure! And never fear, JackDanielsBlack, you mindless troll, we evil liberals are coming out in force against the lunatic fringe that is doing your thinking for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-48940464069362211752009-08-20T12:48:21.520-05:002009-08-20T12:48:21.520-05:00Notice that the tone is changing; a month ago Rach...Notice that the tone is changing; a month ago Rachel Maddow was tee-heeing about "tea baggers" and how ineffectual they were; now she is talking about them as a threat to democracy. I think they represent democracy in action; every Senator and Representative needs to be reminded forcefully once in awhile that "You work for us!" They also put a human face on an argument that has been strangely abstract on the Democratic side. Where are all the outraged proponents of health reform? Michael Moore could get them out; why can't Barack Obama?JackDanielsBlackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285871354441074406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-74587164769023474642009-08-20T11:51:10.646-05:002009-08-20T11:51:10.646-05:00I like the idea of challenging Repubs to respond t...I like the idea of challenging Repubs to respond to the nuttery. Democrats were forced to disavow Rev Wright and the Weather Underground and so on based on the most tenuous of historical associations. Those moderate Repubs "keeping their heads down" are still directly implicated in the here and now. They receive the benefits of the chaos AND get to look like decent moderates for not contributing to it actively. The least we can do is to keep them from having it both ways.Adam Hennehttp://adamhenne.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-37743700083467443212009-08-20T11:35:03.285-05:002009-08-20T11:35:03.285-05:00Rush's comment was vulgar and juvenile.
And ...Rush's comment was vulgar and juvenile. <br /><br />And yes, not only was the woman carrying said sign, when Rep. Frank commented on the defacement of the President's photo being her 1st Amendment right, she <i>proudly held it up</i>. She still didn't get it, in other words.<br /><br />See the video, if you haven't already: He was fabulous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-48100598795533655962009-08-20T11:17:05.315-05:002009-08-20T11:17:05.315-05:00I thought Rush was funny (juvenile, admittedly, bu...I thought Rush was funny (juvenile, admittedly, but juvenile can be funny). I notice that you liberals love to dish it out but hate to take it.JackDanielsBlackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17285871354441074406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-28842023663415974992009-08-20T10:29:41.063-05:002009-08-20T10:29:41.063-05:00I think it's fair to say there are plenty of s...I think it's fair to say there are plenty of socially liberal small government conservatives out there just keeping their heads down, for lack of a better option.Charles Fultonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08858126431693763863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-29777516224457012162009-08-20T10:23:21.541-05:002009-08-20T10:23:21.541-05:00Ditto. Well said. And I especially appreciate yo...Ditto. Well said. And I especially appreciate your last full paragraph on conservative identifiers. - TLTim Lacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04098955217921572372noreply@blogger.com