tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post7916316757267694134..comments2024-03-09T03:20:20.004-05:00Comments on Tenured Radical: Update: the James Sherley Tenure Case at MITTenured Radicalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05703980598547163290noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-65565970420642781392010-12-03T03:04:28.095-05:002010-12-03T03:04:28.095-05:00Panerai and Ferrari are addition archetype of top ...Panerai and Ferrari are addition archetype of top end <a href="http://www.watchesame.com/panerai.html" rel="nofollow"><strong>Replica Panerai</strong></a> and car brands abutting forces. Although avant-garde over the years, the Carrera still embodies the era of "Gentleman drivers." TAG Heuer Grand Carrera: "the aberrant avante garde TAG Heuer Accumulating aggressive by incomparable Motor Antagonism Heritage."longgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17588180289785941023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-31238891857101801102009-02-20T16:04:00.000-05:002009-02-20T16:04:00.000-05:00"I have deliberately not called friends at MIT and..."I have deliberately not called friends at MIT and Harvard to ask them what they think about this because I don't want to develop an opinion about something I can't know much about."<BR/><BR/>Let me get this straight: you are deliberately ignorant of the facts of the case, but you're going to spout off your opinions anyway? You choose of your own volition not to hear about what Prof. Shirley has or has not done, but you will proclaim your decision on his case anyway? Wow.<BR/><BR/>He could be the most wonderful researcher in the world. But you wouldn't know. He could just be some average schmo. But you wouldn't know. You refuse to know. Your careless indifference is astounding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-60804252145621074732007-07-05T18:04:00.000-05:002007-07-05T18:04:00.000-05:00No comment on the merits of the case. However, fr...No comment on the merits of the case. However, from experience I can tell you that 'the process' is always an alienating one, because years and years of work get put into the meat-grinder, while the candidates are not supposed to feel that they are entitled to predict the direction of events, or the eventual outcome.<BR/><BR/>Remember: 'the weight given to scholarship, teaching, and service is always adjusted to reflect the weaknesses of the candidate.'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-26115707154694032982007-07-05T16:30:00.000-05:002007-07-05T16:30:00.000-05:00I'm interested in the Zenith student's post. Wher...I'm interested in the Zenith student's post. Where can I find out more about the situation or situations--I feel at once naive and envious of Z. for having such students who call things as they are. <BR/><BR/>I don't recall, but I haven't been following this long enough, TR discussing this. It seems clear that institutional protocol would prevent that, but is there somewhere else to find details or event an account of what's happening there--it sounds like things are very awry--I mean our students would never know that bad things are happening to faculty, or there's been no indication when bad things do happen. Mine being a state institution with a union we are far more in the know, have to be, there is a formula, it must be followed. Expectations are given at the time of hiring. I really did think that this was the only legal way to hire someone into a renewable contract.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-73427248859245851762007-07-05T14:50:00.000-05:002007-07-05T14:50:00.000-05:00TR,Thanks for the post. It's enlightening to hear ...TR,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post. It's enlightening to hear about tenure from someone on the inside (meaning you). <BR/><BR/>Before reading your posts about the subject, my take on the process oscillated between something like (a) being "made" by the Mob and (b) a pseudo-scientific formula that accounts for teaching evaluations, collegiality, and articles published. <BR/><BR/>Am I being cynical in feeling like it's about 70/30 (a/b)?<BR/><BR/>- TLTim Lacyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02896230254720822005noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-76142317931813556842007-07-04T22:35:00.000-05:002007-07-04T22:35:00.000-05:00I would hope this is not a matter of ideology. I q...I would hope this is not a matter of ideology. I question this only because he seemed to have been doing some important work with the large grant he received. A real response from MIT would be nice.I too disagree with his conclusions, but I respect his right to have them.Edward Carsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17131417460187635912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-15624110922117601562007-07-04T18:09:00.000-05:002007-07-04T18:09:00.000-05:00As a current Zenith student, I've become increasin...As a current Zenith student, I've become increasingly frustrated with the tenure process, especially this semester. I had an angry outburst in class after my professor (safely tenured) explained that the tenure process boiled down to publishing and teaching - recent experience shows that professors with enormously high approval ratings and publications here, there, and everywhere are still not getting tenure. Particularly when their academic foci are marginalised, such as, completely hypothetically of course, queer studies or Asian American studies. Ahem.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-82935512471142922962007-07-04T16:31:00.000-05:002007-07-04T16:31:00.000-05:00TR, What if we had tenure AND a union?TR, What if we had tenure AND a union?Lesboprofhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09249806181782620274noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-86784653775707165202007-07-03T15:15:00.000-05:002007-07-03T15:15:00.000-05:00It does seem that an earlier comment indicated tha...It does seem that an earlier comment indicated that they might comment--not involved, at another institution, or whatever--why don't we use chains of gossip as other tightly knit professions do? Perhaps we do, could that be the corrective rather than getting rid of the institution of tenure: careful cross-institutional monitoring?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-83351278942080751342007-07-03T14:38:00.000-05:002007-07-03T14:38:00.000-05:00My former department had quite an inconsistent tra...My former department had quite an inconsistent track record. One could not predict based on an academic c.v. how the department would vote (instead, it had to do with how a candidate fit with different factions in the department (as well as race and gender (and probably sexuality)). It was well known that many (if not most) of the people voting on tenure didn't bother to even read the files. Without question, women candidates faced a harder time and amassed more negative votes in the tenure process. None of it was provable, though, or could be documented as discrimination per se (there were so few women candidates that one couldn't declare a "pattern"). <BR/><BR/>I think that making the "process" open to scrutiny and disallowing anonymous voting on tenure cases would go a long way to fixing some of these problems. If people faced more accountability for their votes and knew it would be recorded, they might be less likely to try skeevy interpretations of the file. The cult of secrecy was fine for the Masons, but it has no place in personnel decisions.GayProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11289510184782252498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-4104376928732031672007-07-03T14:35:00.000-05:002007-07-03T14:35:00.000-05:00Dear anonymous commenters,It is my personal opinio...Dear anonymous commenters,<BR/><BR/>It is my personal opinion that the tenure process is quite broken right now, and that in a situation like that, women, queers, and minorities are bound to take it on the chin. Or rather, that the gulf between haves and have-nots becomes quite wide.<BR/><BR/>Amd of course I cannot comment on tenure cases at Zenith. But I do think that if tenure cases were public, and not private, it would be far easier to actually address the ones where something has gone wrong.<BR/><BR/>And if we got rid of tenure and joined a union.....well.<BR/><BR/>TRTenured Radicalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05703980598547163290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-11486315344030187782007-07-03T14:31:00.000-05:002007-07-03T14:31:00.000-05:00really ? I also wouldn't have thought that, at all...really ? I also wouldn't have thought that, at all. I think the idea that it's obvious that every place is unsafe is as damaging as the idea that every place is safe. I've heard no major cases coming out of z. but maybe that means nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-28276959308660010532007-07-03T14:17:00.000-05:002007-07-03T14:17:00.000-05:00what? "Zenith" has plenty of cases of queers and ...what? "Zenith" has plenty of cases of queers and people of color getting denied tenure. PLENTY!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-72750817409082893232007-07-03T12:01:00.000-05:002007-07-03T12:01:00.000-05:00every school has its problems, including zenith.every school has its problems, including zenith.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-87731112270803571002007-07-03T11:24:00.000-05:002007-07-03T11:24:00.000-05:00Dear TR,I have nothing to add to what you say. Ho...Dear TR,<BR/><BR/>I have nothing to add to what you say. However, I do have recent experience with not just feeling wronged by a T&P committee, but also feeling that not listening to experts in a field is a privilege many unethical voters both in departments and on external committees take quite seriously as their "right," as part of the uncontestable "process." It seems to me that it IS A PROCESSUAL problem to disregard experts, if we give up expertise, we frankly give up any fair standard by which to judge. <BR/><BR/>Recent events lead me to believe that the tenure process is there precisely in place to endanger already endangered members of the community--when and if committees can get away with it.<BR/><BR/>Zenith is a place very famous for taking care of its minorities, no? So I'd be surprised if such things happened there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com