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The degree I got has never been directly relevant to any of my jobs, but it has opened doors in so many other areas.<BR/><BR/>With the degree on my resume, supervisors have looked to me as someone who can learn quickly and thoroughly; I have credibility in talking with students (the couple of Masters' programs I started and didn't finish have also helped in that regard); and I have the self-assurance that comes with starting out adult life being passionately interested in something and exploring that passion for three years. These social and personal aspects of a liberal arts education are usually downplayed by institutions trying to reassure students that they'll get a return on their investment. <BR/><BR/>For me, the secretarial course I started six months after completing my degree ended up being the job training I needed; but I have had the pleasure of the life of the mind in my own quiet, unpublished, widely read way ever since. Yes, I spend my days in front of the computer and solving problems for professors and graduate students, but I gained a reading list and a syllabus for life-long learning, and THAT has been a treasure.Liz in Ypsilantihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16551683050101411764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-11836151948012322602008-12-08T11:56:00.000-05:002008-12-08T11:56:00.000-05:00I too would like to know why applications from peo...I too would like to know why applications from people who have never held a t-t job or who have been on the market for several years are discarded. TR, could you address this question?<BR/><BR/>I followed up on jobs I was rejected for last year and discovered something that baffled me. The person who received one of those jobs was fresh out of U-Chicago but with no publications, no grant history, and no fellowships, and, yet, they got the job. <BR/><BR/>I, however, have been out for only two years, already published 4 peer-reviewed journal articles (both first-tier journals in the discipline and one in a respected region-focused journal) and held a two-year postdoc at a top ten liberal arts college. The only reason I can see for not getting noticed is that my Ph.D. is from a university that doesn't rank with the big names. The department, however, was a good one, staffed by faculty from those big name schools. <BR/><BR/>A collegue said that in all likelihood the search committee never read my application, just simply looked for my graduate institution and then, unimpressed, tossed it aside. Is this possible, and, if so, isn't that incredibly superficial and elitist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-55992412737380938172008-12-07T17:27:00.000-05:002008-12-07T17:27:00.000-05:00There should be more training in how to be strateg...There should be more training in how to be strategic about makign yourself stand out. For example, people I see who were successful on the TT market in the Humanities made sure to teach in 3 different types of departments while doing their MA and PhD. The unique combo made them the unique candidate.<BR/><BR/>When doing my English MA, I had co-students who refused to teach technical/business writing (too boring) or online (again, too boring) when they could instead repeatedly teach composition or creative writing. I don't think they were being very realistic about the teaching market. <BR/><BR/>All that being said, I think the idea that academics hold that graduate school somehow makes one eligible for these mysterious jobs that supposedly exist outside academia is somewhat of a bogus idea. Where are all these nicely-paying professional jobs that will hire me on the basis of my having an MA in English? I would like someone to point them out to me since they supposedly exist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-19350341180056976262008-12-04T15:54:00.000-05:002008-12-04T15:54:00.000-05:00Rabbi-refusal is, I think, the model we have adopt...Rabbi-refusal is, I think, the model we have adopted here at Urban University: every year, we hold an informational seminar for our undergrads who want to go to grad school, the content of which seminar is 40% information, 60% horror. But at the end of it, there are usually two or three of those 20 students in attendance who still want to give it a go, desipite tales of poverty, chastity, and obedience, with no guarantees on the other end. These are the students who will do well, even if they don't find jobs.<BR/><BR/>And C.D., I'm still rooting for you!Notorious Ph.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/08700875559325201086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-30869823445747741972008-12-04T15:32:00.000-05:002008-12-04T15:32:00.000-05:00Thanks for the response and sending me all the rea...Thanks for the response and sending me all the readers, TR! <BR/><BR/>I do have to make the small correction that the jobs I have applied to have primarily made their calls for interviews already and only some of them have been cut, so clearly something I'm doing is not stacking up well against the competition rather than all the jobs vanishing out from under my fingers. <BR/><BR/><I>Remember that when a job is established, or re-filled, it is budgeted on the understanding that X amount of endowment is available to fund it and/or on projections from the next budget year, and everything is pretty volatile right now.</I><BR/><BR/>It is my understanding that if a dept. does not successfully fill a line, the administration often folds the line back into another part of the U --- at my department, we haven't replaced any of the retirements or poachings; the FTEs have been moved to departments with higher "pull" and enrollment; there's currently a huge demand for those mechanical engineer slots and they are much more expensive to fund than English. <BR/><BR/>Also, at the last conference I was at, some people expressed the worry that their small liberal arts college that few people had heard of (ie not a Zenith level school) was going to fold completely in the next year or so, putting everyone there out of work. And some profs at, I believe, one of the public Florida schools?, were talking about all of the language departments being folded in to one and everyone on the tt would be laid off. This, combined with historian Timothy Burke's prediction, somewhere or other on the blogosphere, that perhaps as many as a third of the lower end liberal arts college were just going to go under, all makes me think that we are moving from a period of "crisis" to a real and actual crisis. <BR/><BR/>The idea of doing the rabbi-refusal thing to prospective students sounds like a good tactic, I think. And for the training side, I wish that the public high schools around here were more flexible and understanding about taking in PhDs into teaching rather than looking at them as if they have three heads; I should think having teachers with more depth training would be good. <BR/><BR/>I may have more to say at my own blog, but I just wanted to say a word of thanks before heading off for lunch.Sisyphushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09880634753539329199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-71279231078842596882008-12-04T10:51:00.000-05:002008-12-04T10:51:00.000-05:00Just a comment on the point about institutions not...Just a comment on the point about institutions not hiring those with unconventional cvs: OPU has done just that in two cases that I recall. The first was someone denied tenure because the book had not appeared in time; we hired him that year, the book came out rapidly, and he was a wonderful colleague. He eventually left us, after several years, for an Ivy. In another case, we hired someone who actually had quit her former job. She had received some sort of negative review, decided it was bullshit, got a fellowship for a year and quit her TT job. We hired her after her fellowship year. She stayed with us for a very brief time however, because she won a MacArthur about a 18 months later. <BR/><BR/>In both cases, these people ended up with top-level careers. We're sad we didn't keep them, but no one could suggest they weren't good choices to hire, and lovely colleagues while they were here.squadratomagicohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07977502780584567298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-53890236519222045022008-12-04T10:39:00.000-05:002008-12-04T10:39:00.000-05:00I echo the first anonymous. Having been on the mar...I echo the first anonymous. Having been on the market several years, this may be what I fear and resent most. I am a BETTER candidate now than when I was a newly-minted Ph.D. Then I still didn't quite know who I was as a scholar. Now I do. I write better, I teach better, I would be better able to navigate a new institutional culture and become a productive colleague.clio's disciplehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13640279322691564414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-77231850885664754832008-12-04T10:13:00.000-05:002008-12-04T10:13:00.000-05:00TR, things will not change any time soon. There is...TR, things will not change any time soon. There is too much institutional investment in keeping things the way they are. Once people do get a job, they fail to acknowledge the amount of luck involved and just assume they are among the deserving few. I heard plenty of those doom and gloom talks before I applied to grad school and while I was there. But I didn't pay attention, for the simple reason that all of the people spouting this stuff were people who had jobs. I figured that they probably thought they deserved nicer jobs than the ones they actually had. Now I know the reality, and I would definitely not advise any undergraduate to attend graduate school in the humanities, for any reason.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-52420979687338284882008-12-04T09:49:00.000-05:002008-12-04T09:49:00.000-05:00That then might jolt loose a conversation among un...<I>That then might jolt loose a conversation among undergraduate institutions about why we more or less discard applications from people who have never held a tenure-track job, or who have failed to get tenure somewhere else, but whose scholarly record is actually good enough to get them tenure at our institutions had they entered at a conventional time.</I><BR/><BR/>Why DO they do that? Even tremendously unfair things often have a logic behind them, but I do not understand the logic of this practice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com