tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post6406245024229002637..comments2024-03-09T03:20:20.004-05:00Comments on Tenured Radical: How To Do Your Job: Stanley Fish, Save The World On Your Own TimeTenured Radicalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05703980598547163290noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-54269204559635163212010-01-29T06:07:05.985-05:002010-01-29T06:07:05.985-05:00Fish left to become the dean of liberal arts and s...Fish left to become the dean of liberal arts and sciences at the University of Illinois-Chicago from 1999 to 2004,that's mean Fish left to become in only five years.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.ghostpapers.com/" rel="nofollow">Term papers</a>Term Papershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02145417264678061367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-59046797861421450732009-11-03T18:51:21.604-05:002009-11-03T18:51:21.604-05:00He spends little time on the art of listening, som...<i>He spends little time on the art of listening, something that is sadly neglected in most academic settings.</i><br /><br />You seddit. And what you say relates to this author. Years ago I had the misfortune of appearing on a panel with this person. He didn't listen to a word uttered by anyone except himself. I haven't read all of Fish's writings, but in the portion I've encountered I've never seen anything to indicate he has ever reflected on anything said by any breathing, speaking contemporary.LadyProfnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-39405029753308678012009-11-01T04:29:03.160-05:002009-11-01T04:29:03.160-05:00The bottom line is that America is fairly anti-int...<i>The bottom line is that America is fairly anti-intellectual at this point-and when that's the case, being any kind of intellectual, engendering any kind of re-thinking, can be construed as political. To avoid activism altogether, I'd have to stay home (or get re-trained to work on Wall Street).<br /></i><br />This is a really good point. Merely accepting the existence of objective discernable reality and concerning oneself with discerning the nature of that reality is seen by vast numbers of Americans as irrefutable evidence of irredeemable liberal bias.Comrade PhysioProfhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-14424319728326900602009-10-31T21:19:29.892-05:002009-10-31T21:19:29.892-05:00I'd say an additional problem with this approa...I'd say an additional problem with this approach (as much as it might be nice if it could work) is the degree to which, at least in America currently, the idea of inquiry and study itself is politicized. The idea of evidence based decision making as a reliable activity is one that seems to have a waning position in the public sphere in America. Questioning itself is a pretty political activity when there's a large chunk of the population encouraging people to move in lockstep. Things that are matters of historical record become political (i.e., what is a socialist? what was the civil war about? what happened during reconstruction? Do you mention women? of course women have existed throughout history, but mentioning them in any role other than childbearing can be seen as liberal bias...or, god forbid, feminism. How did Hawaii become part of the United States? Who did the Nazis kill and why? Who were the original Zionists and what did they advocate? you get the picture)<br /><br />There's also a certain equation (by some of my students, at least) between inquiry that doesn't lead to immediate monetary gain and (lazy) liberalism-i.e., if it doesn't lead to immediate monetary gain and thereby contribute to the market, it's a waste of time and money and therefore, in fact, anti-free market. Something only a liberal could support. <br /><br />The bottom line is that America is fairly anti-intellectual at this point-and when that's the case, being any kind of intellectual, engendering any kind of re-thinking, can be construed as political. To avoid activism altogether, I'd have to stay home (or get re-trained to work on Wall Street).democracy's edgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16962079171743555214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-47316866609698270412009-10-31T03:24:41.577-05:002009-10-31T03:24:41.577-05:00I particularly like the idea of administrators doi...<i>I particularly like the idea of administrators doing their job well so that I can pay close attention to what I was educated for: teaching, scholarship and providing sane advice on who we ought to hire, not shadowing and carping at administrators. Like Fish, the older I get the less attached I am to shared governance. In part this is because I don't think there are many examples of faculties who have exercised it effectively and usefully, and in part, I don't think it exists except as something we gesture towards. I prefer a clear set of regulations that are effectively and fairly enforced by objective parties who are truly interested in what is going on at the level of the department and willing to intervene when people are being screwed. I would prefer pay equity. I would prefer a union. I would also prefer, as Fish suggests, to get all the information possible, to make the preferences and reasons for those preferences known, and then to forget about it while a set of competent administrators settles the issue in a way that is fair.<br /></i><br />A-FUCKING-MEN!!!11!1!ELEVENTY!11!<br /><br />If I had a dollar for every minute I have sat in faculty meetings listening to washed-up tenured deadwood doofuses who can't even successfully manage a research laboratory containing half a dozen scientists blither on and on and on about all the bad decisions the dean of our medical school is making and how if they were the dean everything would be totally unicorns and rainbows flying out of all of our asses, I'd be a motherfucking bajillionaire!Comrade PhysioProfhttp://physioprof.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36212542.post-44516305922306611082009-10-31T00:07:37.934-05:002009-10-31T00:07:37.934-05:00Sounds to me like his views haven't changed in...Sounds to me like his views <a href="http://hnn.us/blogs/comments/5289.html" rel="nofollow">haven't changed in five years</a> and that there's very little new here. There's something to be said for consistency, I suppose, but he's been doing the same ranty schtick for over half a decade that I've been aware of and hasn't, as you point out, developed any nuance or useful suggestions that we haven't already heard a few hundred times.Jonathan Dresnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04356112719229675996noreply@blogger.com